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Release Date[edit]

We're going to have to re-validate the release date of this album, since other sources have it as 24 August 1979, not 3 August. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radec (talkcontribs) 18:18, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[]


Some might not consider this to be a landmark album such as Remain in Light, but it deserves more than one paragraph. Maybe I'll expand this myself sometime. For now I've added the album-stub template. Gyrofrog 22:01, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The personnel section looks as though it were copied from the review at the All Music Guide which isn't really correct (and has that weird (IMHO) AMG format). It's probably less information now, but I've changed it to reflect what appears in the liner notes. Gyrofrog 23:43, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Concept album?[edit]

(I have moved this section from the article, pending citation of sources, else it appears to be original research. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC))[]

Some have hypothesized that the title of the album does not imply a "fear of music," but rather music relating to fears of things, a theory in line with the claustrophobic and paranoid feel of the album. By substituting the names of songs for the word "music," this theory becomes evident: "Fear of Animals," "Fear of Air," "Fear of Life During Wartime." However, the presence of "I Zimbra" complicates the viability of this theory.

And Fear of Electric Gituar just sounds silly. User: Jbeckwith

Gene Wilder[edit]

The Gene Wilder mentioned is apparently not Gene Wilder, although we are not allowed to mention this. Jidanni (talk) 18:12, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[]

The article says:
"These credits refer to two street drummers, per the band's biography: Bowman, David [April 2001] (November 26, 2002). "Hoovering", This Must Be the Place, paperback ed. (in English), New York: Harper Paperbacks, p. 146. ISBN 0060507314. “Later two street drummers, credited as 'Gene Wilder and Ari', were rounded up from Washington Square Park to beat bongos [sic] to the cut as well.”
Why is it necessary to add a more explicit statement that the street drummer Gene Wilder isn't the actor Gene Wilder. It's self-evident. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 19:44, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[]

I tried to discuss it on Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#When_this_is_not_the_famous_person_of_the_same_name.

Anyway, it's funny that you have to add a lot of words about a seemingly insignificant person, but then you won't let anybody say why so much should be mentioned.

Yes, if you don't say "so the street drummer Gene Wilder isn't the actor Gene Wilder" then maybe you are trying to say "so the street drummer Ari isn't Ari Herstand" -- who knows what you are trying to say. It's like some fire alarm will go off if the link Gene Wilder appears on the page, and you will do anything to prevent it.

If you mentioned "a drunken George W. Bush" then you should say "but not the President George W. Bush", unless you mean him, no? And not leave it up to guessing. Jidanni (talk) 02:25, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[]

Song Writers?[edit]

I'm reading the liner notes right now, and the only song not written solely by David Byrne is "I Zimbra." Where did these other credits for "Life During Wartime", "Memories Can't Wait", and "Heaven" come from? JoeD80 (talk) 23:09, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[]

Dead links[edit]

In 2005, Channel 4 ranked it at number 76 during The 100 Greatest Albums countdown.[1]

We don't delete information just because a link is dead. You can try to search the Channel 4 site for it, as I did, and see if the link has changed. It had. You could check the Internet Archive. Or you could leave it with a {{dead link}} template. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:16, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[]


  1. ^ "The 100 Greatest Albums". Channel 4. Retrieved 23 September 2009.

Dead external links to Allmusic website – January 2011[edit]

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Fixed. BNutzer (talk) 13:36, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[]

Cities Article[edit]

I found a decent amount of information for the song Cities. It also was a single from the album, so I feel like I have the tools to write a good article even if it wasn't a huge success. --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 01:10, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[]


I added a little bit to the Heaven article. Please don't delete it because if it still doesn't provide enough information tell me and I'll find more information on it or go more into depth. -- (talk) 15:50, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[]

Move to Fear of Music[edit]

i think that this page should be moved to simply Fear of Music. the Fear of Music disambiguation only lists one other use, which is a less notable band that took its name from the album, apparently (the article does not cite any sources). also, the album page is getting hundreds of views per day, with the band's page rarely exceeding 10 on a given day (check). either way, there's no point in disambiguating two topics. ~ Boomur [] 15:24, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[]

Sounds like it was a good idea, but just in case, shouldn't the ripoff album, as well as the word for the actual fear of music, be mentioned somewhere in the article? Because I cannot figure out whether or not there actually is an associated phobia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:11, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[]

New section on the cover artwork, packaging and title[edit]

This article is quite extensive and well researched, but I do feel it contains a quote from a flawed Rolling Stone review which claims that the album packaging is reminiscent of a manhole cover. If you take a step back and think rationally about what the cover is and looks like, it doesn’t look anything like a manhole cover at all. Rather it is clearly an industrial diamond plate pattern often used for non-skid flooring or for aesthetic purposes to imply an industrial sensibility. A quick Google search for “diamond plate pattern” proves this to be true.

So I am trying to understand the best way to clarify the cover design and I believe creating a section called “Packaging and title”would be the way to go. The Remain in Light article has a “Packaging and title” section that is pretty nice, but in contrast I cannot find an extensive, cited discussion about the cover for Fear of Music that would properly allow such a section to exist. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions how to proceed? --SpyMagician (talk) 07:34, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[]

I don't know why Jon Pareles described the cover of Fear of Music as "corrugated" when it was, as you wrote, clearly embossed. I seem to recall that back in 1979, the cover was widely described as having been inspired by a New York City manhole cover, but maybe that idea came from the Rolling Stone review. Looking at the images of the diamond-plate pattern, I agree that the cover more closely resembles diamond plate.
But Wikipedia's policy against original research means that our opinions don't matter one bit. The only thing that matters is what reliable sources say. Most of the websites that mention the diamond-plate pattern don't satisfy WP:IRS, but here is one that does. Here's another that might be a reliable source.
That's not a whole lot, but it's certainly enough to write about an alternate description of the album cover. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 00:07, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[]

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